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As a woman of noble birth, Margaret Pole was given a private execution. It is always an education! When Margaret was informed of her sons letter she wrote him and admonished his letter to the king. "By the end of the show, she is at a place that I don't think many of the people in the audience will be expecting her to get to," he continued. An unhinged scientist who once worked for the Federation and who has been experimenting heavily with time travel deliberately goes back in time to disrupt the timeline. neck, hacking her to pieces for some time before she died. Celebrating the release of The Colour of Bone A London Charnel House. As an heir to the Plantagenets, Margaret is seen by the King's mother, the Red Queen, as a rival to the Tudor claim to the throne. The plot to assassinate Reginald was something that Margaret was aware of, she stated that her son Geoffrey had told her of the Kings plan and she had hoped to change His Majestys mind. "You have seen too much of the darkness in this life, and I fear it has corrupted your mind and your soul." Margaret, like her father, had refused to take the Oath of Supremacy. terrified- out- of- her- wits Margaret leaping up from the block and taking off like Merely two weeks after Margaret was questioned, her eldest son, Lord Montague was tried before a jury of his peers at Westminster. The church celebrates her feast day on May 28 each year. At the time of her birth, her father was third in line to throne of England, but only for a few days. Born: 14 Aug Henry was not going to This lead me to look of the practice of "Death Masks"; it's compelling to look upon the faces of long lost faces, some famous, some just plain interesting. This comment has been removed by the author. Then there was her proximity to, and participation in, the private life of Henry VIII, which made her "family" more than her bloodlines ever could. Her mother, Isabel, daughter of the above-mentioned "King-maker," died 22nd December, 1476, and her father in the Tower nearly two years later. He was descended from St Thomas's sister, Elizabeth. But they have never been proven, and in fact they seem pretty far fetched. Because of the executioner was young, (the "offical executioner" was away) and Happy 14th Birthday to the Anne Boleyn Files! The Mores who remained in England endured suspicion, fines and occasionally more ferocious forms of persecution. Typically, the biography of a saint ends with the saints death. Born at Castle Farley, near Bath, 14 Aug Her feast day is the 28th May, the date that some sources give as her execution date. and Montgomery Castles and was appointed Sheriff of the county of Merioneth. On stage, Alleyn starred in the title roles of Marlowes most popular dramas, Doctor Faustus, Tamburlaine the Great and The Jew of Malta. His wife Isabel Neville, Duchess of Clarence was the daughter of the Earl of Warwick, or the Kingmaker as he is generally referred to. The FIRST ever popular biography of Margaret Pole, who is the subject of Philippa Gregory's latest novel: The King's Curse. Parliament" passed on 12 May 1539, without a trial. Isabel was related to Richard III, the famous king who possibly murdered his nephews, in two ways. George Plantagenet, Duke of Clarence (he of the nosedive in the "butt of almsey"), and Isabel, elder daughter of the Earl of There is a record that she paid For traitors on the block should die;I am no traitor, no, not I!My faithfulness stands fast and so,Towards the block I shall not go!Nor make one step, as you shall see;Christ in Thy Mercy, save Thou me! With one son exiled and one in the Tower, Margaret Pole must have felt the noose tightening around her family. One of the little-known historic characters that's brought to life in the series is Margaret "Maggie" Pole, played by Laura Carmichael, of Downton Abbey fame. Margaret was allowed to stay with Mary The feast day of Blessed Margaret Pole is 28 May, and she was beatified 1886 by Pope Leo VIII. In 1512, at the petition of Margaret, Henry VIII granted her the earldom of Salisbury, making her Countess of Salisbury in her own right. Is that how torturers are rewarded in this brave new England? Henrys father was When the king found he couldn't obtain an annulment of his marriage to Catherine from the Church, he essentially declared himself pope of England and gave himself one.St. Henry Pole, Lord Montagu was familiar with the process of being arrested for treason, after all he had been arrested for in connection to the 3 rd Duke of Buckingham's plot against the king in 1520. They were the parents of at least 1 son and 2 daughters. Margaret Beaufort, and Henry Roman Catholicism, for one thing, traditionally places God above man. with the Marquis of Exeter, Margaret was born during the brutal and bloody time of the Wars of the Rose a powerful family divided by the House of York and House of Lancaster, and each believed the throne of England belonged to them. I am informed from a good quarter, this King is exceedingly annoyed. With George Gordon, Lord Byron, and Sir Walter Scott, he embodied British . verge of fleeing the scene himself. Countess of Salisbury was honoured with a prominent position in the politique. Fitzwilliam, Earl of Southampton. to prosper under the Tudors but what occurred in 1521 was to sow the seeds of Henry could get his His devoted daughter, Margaret Roper, bribed the bridge-keeper to knock it down and she smuggled it home. After Simnel was discovered to be an imposter (because the REAL Edward was at court), then Perkin Warbeck took a shot at the throne claiming to be one of the princes in the Tower, Richard. This meant she would not receive a trial. honours, however, ended in 1485, when the victory of another cousin, Isabella of Portugal, who was more of an age to immediately Margaret More (Margaret Roper), the daughter of Thomas More and Jane Colt More, was born in October 1505. Henry was beside himself with rage, and it soon became evident that, Hearst Magazine Media, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Fitzwilliam, Earl of Southampton and "There is a story across the show with Laura [Carmichael] and a wonderful character, Thomas More, played by Andrew BuchanI'm sure people will know him from Broadchurch. First Look: The Spanish Princess Series Finale. The previous year such respected men as and her eldest son had written to Will The Spanish Princess Get a Season 3? A sketch of "About the same time, the very strange and lamentable execution of Mme. Norfolk were her Godmothers at the font, and the Countess of Salisbury In Nov, 1538, two of her sons, Chapuys was more than happy to report this to his master: Respecting the disaffection (indisposition) of the Welsh country, to which allusion has been made in the said letters, my information is that the inhabitants are really very much concerned and afflicted at the bad treatment of the Queen and Princess, as well as at what is now being done against the Faith; for they (the Welsh) have always been and are still, to a man, good Christians. It should come as no surprise that after the execution of Anne Boleyn in 1536 Margaret was once again back in favor, but it would not last long. He gave evidence against Geoffrey, which in turn also damned Margaret. A lady was sent from the court to retrieve brother, Edward IV. English Martyrs, I (London, 1904), 502 sqq. hands on, into the Tower. daughter over a French one, and when it appeared that Henry VII, paid with his life the penalty of being the last male representative of the Yorkist line (28 Nov 1499). I'll say this. Thomas Moore abt 1831 Stanhope, Durham, England, United Kingdom - 02 Mar 1898 managed by Christian Dingarten. Henry Stafford, 1st Baron During the Tudor era it was a highly brutal place where executions we. Because of this she was forced to hand over her son Reginald to the church. Margaret was dismissed from Mary's service, and thus she begged to Edward Stafford, Duke of Buckingham. although they had "travailed with her" for many hours she would were committed to the Tower, and in Jan, with the exception of Due to a high level of spam we must moderate comments. He also spoke of clandestine Its surely consistent with such a diagnosis of his condition, in particular self-pity posing as, or being confused with morality, that More should remain righteously 'unrepentant' even when that became the pretext for his own execution. Little Margaret and Neither account of Margarets cited in this mentions the legendary running around the chopping block. But in 1520 Margaret was clearly in favor with the King and Queen when she was appointed governess of the Princess Mary. 11.5K Followers. Answer (1 of 16): Henry's break with Reginald Pole was the reason the Countess of Salisbury was in a situation to be executed in the first place, but the botched nature of the deed itself had rather more pedestrian origins. Camm: Lives of the Managed by: Carole (Erickson) Pomeroy,Vol. On his accession he granted her Very interesting post. She also did not know about Hugh Holland being sent to deliver letters to her son. spoke out his mind in the affair and shortly afterwards withdrew from England. Her interrogators believed that either Margaret was a marvelous liar or that her sons did not make her privy to their plans. Laura Carmichael as Maggie Pole stands behind her on-screen cousin, Elizabeth of York, played by Alexandra Moen. Father: produced a white silk tunic, embroidered with the arms of England three lions Knight of the Garter. a sprinter. On May 27th 1541, Margaret Pole, the 8th Countess of Salisbury was executed at the Tower of London. Margaret Pole King patiently had him watched and early in 1521 he pounced. Donne had been raised Catholic, but in the early 1590s it became clear to Donne how dangerous following his familys faith could be. In May 1539 a Bill of Attainder was issued against her by Thomas Cromwell and a tunic displaying the Five Wounds, which was used as a symbol in the Northern rebellions, was used as evidence against her, having allegedly been found in her belongings. The other charges against her, to which she was never Lord Montague in official She died in 1426, in Burrough Green, Cambridgeshire, England, at the age of 36. Henry made him a squire of his bodyguard and a Reginald in reproof of his attitude and "nothing utter", and they were forced to conclude that either her sons Further reading: "Margaret Pole, Countess of Salisbury 1473-1541" by Hazel Pierce, "Margaret Pole: The Countess in the . Margaret and Richard went on to have five children together: Henry Pole, the future Lord Montagu (1492-1539), Arthur (d. c.1527/8), Ursula (d. 1570), Reginald (1500-1558), and Geoffrey Pole (d. 1558). Had she been receiving reports that Ayer was spilling the beans? Thomas More was born in London on 7 February 1478. STAFFORD, THOMAS (1531?-1557), rebel, born about 1531 (Addit. Sources: De Castillon and De Marillac: Correspondance politique. their own mothers, but by wet nurses specifically hired for that purpose (and the specifications for such a position were elaborate Over the course of this season, fans of The Spanish Princess have watched as a friendship (or perhaps something more) has blossomed between Thomas More (played by Broadchurch's Andrew Buchan) and .css-gegin5{-webkit-text-decoration:underline;text-decoration:underline;text-decoration-thickness:0.0625rem;text-decoration-color:inherit;text-underline-offset:0.25rem;color:#9a0500;-webkit-transition:all 0.3s ease-in-out;transition:all 0.3s ease-in-out;}.css-gegin5:hover{color:#595959;text-decoration-color:border-link-body-hover;}Maggie Pole (Downton Abbey's Laura Carmichael).But in last week's episode, Pole was horrified as More confessed to torturing Lutherans in his home. Margaret was one of just two women in 16th . Support me by becoming a Medium member: https://bit.ly/39Cybb8. Margaret Plantagenet, Countess of Salisbury (14 August 1473 - 27 May 1541), also called Margaret Pole, as a result of her marriage to Sir Richard Pole, was the only surviving daughter of George Plantagenet, Duke of Clarence, a brother of Kings Edward IV and Richard III (all sons of Richard Plantagenet, 3rd Duke of York), by his wife Isabel Neville. I suppose it is largely a definition-based issue. king's divorce began to be talked Lady Margaret Pole, Countess of Salisbury 1473-1541: Loyalty, Lineage and Leadership . It begins with Maggie Pole, the cousin of Elizabeth of York, the Queen when Catherine arrives. by Susan Higginbotham. We may earn commission on some of the items you choose to buy. and exact). Author Susan Higginbotham of Margaret Pole The Countess in the Tower states that it may have been Margarets own pious act which resulted in her familys downfall. Mary and her beleagured mother and their cause, disappeared from the Henrican deriding With the Lady Mary back in favor surely those who backed her with the Pilgrimage of Grace were satisfied. At his death, Margaret and That would explain her displeasure with Thomas More's methods. was a landed gentleman of Buckinghamshire and About 1491 Henry VII gave her in marriage to Henry could get his Fascinatingly, he and Mary died within 12 hours of one another on November 17, 1558. The following month Thomas Cromwell was informed that additional clothing was needed for two ladies and their attendants in the Tower, who were under the charge of Thomas Phillips. She was cousin to Henry VIII's mother, and well trusted by the king for years. faithfulness stands fast and so, Towards the block I shall not go! circumstances concerning the escape abroad of the Countess chaplain, When her death had been resolved upon, her nephew [sic], the son of Mr. Montagu, who had occasionally permission to go about within the precincts of the Tower, was placed in close confinement, and it is supposed that he will soon follow his father and grandmother. Margaret Roper by Hans Holbein. Evidently his guilt did not stop him from further implicating his own brother Monatgu and on the 4th of November he too was arrested. Then, much to her shock and surprise, he tells her that her title of Countess of Salisbury has been rescinded. Margaret was born into the House of York and was the daughter of George, Duke of Clarence, brother of Edward IV. was small and frail, it took the young man (who must have been panicked - though "I die the king's good servant, and God's first."--Thomas More. British Library. Prince Arthur and took control of the Welsh Marches on behalf of the William, born 1498, was the eldest son of John Roper of Well Hall, Eltham, and St. Dunstans, Canterbury and his wife Jane, daughter of Sir John Fineux of Faversham and Herne in Kent. Warwick (the King-maker). Despite an on-screen rivalry, she was a member of Catherine of Aragon's household. There is no greater tale of a father and daughter relationship than the story of Sir Thomas More and his Dearest Meg, his eldest daughter Margaret. Sir Geoffrey; actress Laura Carmichael explained, describing her character, according to the National Portrait Gallery, Your Privacy Choices: Opt Out of Sale/Targeted Ads. seventy, was thrown, along with every other Pole Just a clarification, I'm quite certain that Thomas More was a Roman Catholic, not a humanist humanitarian? Stafford in 1501. block, though she was aged and not in good health (and it is unlikely that her Edward, were left orphaned. In that letter Geoffrey offered to join his brother he said, the world in England waxes all crooked, Gods law is turned upside down, abbey and churches overthrown and he [Reginald] is taken for a traiter, and he also claimed in the letter that assassins had been sent to dispatch Reginald. The relationship between the King and Margaret wavered a bit in 1518 when Henry repossessed some of her Salisbury lands saying they belonged to the duchy of Somerset. surrounded by a wreath of pansies and marigolds which the Earl of Southampton Thomas Cromwell believed it demonstrated the Pole's family intentions to marry to Mary and restore papal authority in England. Sir Thomas More and John Fisher, Bishop of Rochester, . (fn. Pole alliance, was thus seen as a threat to Mary's Margaret Pole was a member of the House of Plantagenet, the family which had been ruling England since 1154. was not allowed to accompany her charge, another cousin, Isabella of Portugal, who was more of an age to immediately A selection for 4 DVD films: Mary Tudor, Margaret Pole, Thomas More and John Fisher. Henry VII and Tudor Rule. These are the words found on the wall of her cell and thought to have been etched there by Margaret:-. Required fields are marked *. 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