Glad to hear eye stuff is routine. 2. My cousin was in line for a navigator slot when he joined the Marines. They only care in the beginning because they don't want to waste money on you for "XYZ" reason for processing, no matter how bullshit it is. How do recruiters get medical records to MEPS for a med read? It will regenerate itself in about three to five days. Stuck waiting for MEPS to process my info from Military to Military as well as MEPS to MEPS. Most major airlines are in negotiations at this time, and many are contentious. The medics at BMT requested and reviewed her civilian medical records to possibly determine the cause and any history of the condition. Because of his failure to disclose his medical history at MEPS and it's discovery while he was on Medical Hold, he was administratively discharged from the Air Force without completing BMT for Fraudulent Enlistment. You're still not getting it. Alright, you've got me interested. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. See Article 83 UCMJ. Fraudulent Enlistment. She passed all the exams and was cleared, then went to BMT and performed well. I had the active prescription but wasnt taking them. And if you don't know what to do, you have no business applying to the military. I'm guessing you're done. Put me in the disqualified for medical category. I think the individual is still at the MEPS stage of enlistment, and if I have understood him correctly, he is awaiting a medical waiver of sorts. Lying will. Maybe mental health evaluations should be more thorough, the guys with physical problems that the Army didn't know about got found out because they were being physically pushed but the mental nutjobsthey didn't get found out til they got to their unit. Though would documentation from a psychologist count as documentation from a doctor bc I dont know how familiar doctor at a hospital would be with something related to a different field of medicine. Also, if that user name is actually your name it's a sign that you might not really be very good at this subterfuge thing. : r/USMCboot. It is not the recruiters job to get you into the military, nor is it MEPS' job to disqualify you. Downside, potentially get caught, hit with fraudulent enlistment, permanently disqualified. That sent me down a long road of having to get a waiver for something that had no current medical basis and was utter medical fraud. Yes. If they ask, tell them it's a scar from when you were a kid. Discomfort after surgery is minimal, and vision recovery usually takes place in 1 to 2 days. Stupid kids want the power, the prestige, the money, the sweet benefitsthe military has a lot to offer. Can You Fix a Lie on Your SF-86 Questionnaire? So now I have to play stupid as if nothing happened at MEPS but clearly they know I said something at MEPS. In hindsight, had I known this disaster of 'hurry up and wait' would happen I would have waited another month to check in. I informed my recruiter of this incident and he told me not to mention it to MEPS because it won't come back in a police check being so recent. For both, it's to ensure that only qualified candidates enlist. If your eyes are otherwise healthy, the services will usually waive up to 5 diopters of cylinder (astigmatism). Same with another section. The forms tell you that you must disclose it. So a few days later I went to MEPS but before we went we had to fill more paperwork out. 1. I was in the same spot. I just finished MEPS after having LASIK.I had to provide all medical documentation from the surgery (pre-op, post-op information, etc.) If you would like to protect yourself, add the Chrome extension TamperMonkey, or the Firefox extension GreaseMonkey and click Install This Script on the script page. I plan on waiting the 6 months. We have been contacted by major union legal teams regarding this issue. Do not encourage lying. I swear I've met more dudes getting chaptered in the infantry for mental problems (like a few guys are mentally insane) than I ever imagined. And you'll be sidelined forever. Anyways I called him a few weeks ago telling him I am interested. Always good advice. The young man did see another counselor in the same clinic, who identified several other stressors in his life, including moving away from home to begin college, worries about the cost of college, and a strong fear of public speaking. Delayed my ROTC scholarship for a semester, biggest pain in the ass. And more people are going to lie now that everyone is getting diagnosed with ADHD because they're not interested in school (and ADHD is a disqualifier). Be the first to receive exciting news, features, and special offers from Bodybuilding.com! #12. Press J to jump to the feed. So do you think the cost is worth the benefit? The paper requests numbers from the pre-surgery, 90 days after pre-surgery, and a month after that. I would say lying at meps is a low risk high reward type of deal. 1) I have been told by my Officer Recruiter that I do NOT need any Letters of Recommendation for a package. Is there a glaucoma suspect trait i should be wary of, are there any other eye traits that would require further testing. I have been 100% honest with my paperwork. You will not be able to live the Army values and lead Soldiers in the future. You will never become a United States Marine. Lying at MEPS is punishable by a $10,000 fine and 5 years in prison. Press J to jump to the feed. Here is the Press Release. I have enough money saved to get the surgery, and I'm willing to wait the 180 days, but I don't know how available that waiver is, and my OR doesn't recommend doing anything that will create more hurdles for me to get past at MEPS, stating each hurdle decreases my chances of becoming an officer. She could have been honest about her history and told the Recruiter, who would have told MEPS, who would have requested a waiver, and she would have had a chance at a waiver by doing some additional evaluation. He passed MEPS, signed a contract, and entered Basic Military Training (BMT). Integrity is what you do or how you act when no one is watching. There's been zero issues from the surgery and was absolutely necessary as I couldn't do more than 10 pushups without the wrist being in terrible pain. As a reminder, this subreddit is for civil discussion. Downside, potentially get caught, hit with fraudulent enlistment, permanently disqualified. I knew she couldn't hack it but she joined anyways). I have to go to a cardiologist 3 weeks from now to say if its a no go or not . Downside, you might take a bit longer to get the green light to process and might also have to get documentation from your doctor that you don't need your meds anymore. Further, patients often don't ask what their diagnosis is--the patient is focused on their problems and not the administrivia in a medical record. Good luck to you. Seriously folks, stop with the medical determinations. Do not lie, falsify, or hide information. He runs like 6 miles a day on it perfectly capable. Recruiter told me to lie . They need to have a psychologist evaluate everyone at meps. My ex, who was batshit crazy, probably Bi-polar and was on meds most of her teen life lied about it ALL at MEPs. I realize you were told to lie, but you should have refused. You need to provide all documents not just a cover letter or info sheet. Anyone with any experience or advice? They may lie about behaviors, charges, and other possible information that could disqualify them from enlisting in the military. This comment has been overwritten by this open source script to protect this user's privacy. He hadn't been "prescribed" an anti-depressant because he only took some medicine on a short, trial basis. However, they also discovered that the member received some depression counseling about 2 years before her MEPS visit, which she conveniently omitted. I went through in 2011 after Lasik. You may need further evaluation or counseling before you can live a rigorous military lifestyle. Now they say I need more information such as previous eye prescription, doctors notes, and more. Station commander looked at my medical paperwork and said word-for-word: " You stick to the script. I think that I am going to just forget that it ever happened. I got disqualified for disclosing a medical issue. Pretend now that either of these people had completed BMT without their prior Mental Health history ever evaluated. Idk if the policy is 1 or 3 years, Ive encountered both. In another month, his symptoms and concerns had mostly resolved, and his cousin was also much better. I am going into the marines and have a contract to go to security school where you need a TS if you complete it. He told me not to worry about it and say "no". Processing Stations (MEPS) Your visit to a Military Entrance Processing Station (MEPS) determines your mental aptitude, as well as physical and moral qualifications for enlistment in the Army. and our I got LASIK a few months ago, I know the minimum time from surgery to MEPs has to be at least 6 months. Let's Talk 3..e-mail: nathaliemunoz@live.comSubject "Let's Talk" you can send me anything you want from any topic!Previous LET'S TALK:1. https://goo.gl/jim. Applicants often need further evaluation or counseling before they can live the rigorous and stressful military lifestyle. Messages. I lied at MEPs about multiple things, I don't think it has affected my ability to be a soldier. May 6, 2020. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. The girl with the suicide attempt would not be allowed to enlist today though. The suicide counselor recommended he also consider seeing his own counselor. Dont lie. The main difference between them is that with LASIK, a corneal flap is created and replaced, and with LASEK, the top layer of the cornea is loosened, moved, and reattached. We all come to this website for information and most of us have been corrected on our approach by the main contributors in some fashion. LASIK and LASEK are forms of corrective refractive eye surgeries, and both reshape corneas permanently. So they just left that section blank and filled in the most recent appointment, making it look as if i never went in at all until just the other day. Should I lie and say the scar is from an accident like jumping over a fence that needed stitches? I have to go to a cardiologist 3 weeks from now to say if it's a no go or not . That's what the exam is for, to make sure you're fit for duty. They said "No problem, we'll work around it." What's the deal? The rules here have not changed, but the enforcement will now result in a 30 day ban from APC for violations. This was the man who my friend had confessed his pot usage to when we first showed up a month ago, but now my friend lied to him and he accepted the lie without hesitation. You're assuming her recruiter didn't know With the rise of electronic medical records it'll become extremely hard to lie for meps. It is best that you speak with your recruiter and explain that you failed to mention it as your doctor told you it was not an issue. Comedian and Student of Life | Ep 029 JP Sears, [ARCHIVED THREAD] - Not disclosing information at MEPS - Advice Needed. Your Recruiter will not be the one getting in troubleit will be you. Then to delete your comments, simply click on your username on Reddit, go to the comments tab, scroll down as far as possible (hint: use RES), and hit the new OVERWRITE button at the top. I am perfectly health for Army service and will be telling hte MEPS doctors that *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. Recruits who pass their physical and have no prior history may be accepted because the military does not routinely pull medical information. MEPS stands for Military Entrance Processing Station. Bit of stretch that anybody would have any insight on this subject, but the only thing stopping me from getting accepted for MEPS is my LASIK documentation. I lied at meps . Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. ), Arborry Hill Road Company, LLC Copyright 2006-2023, Service Academy Forums is a registered trademark of Arborry Hill Road Company, LLC. My gramma always told me I had to be able to look at myself in the mirror, and know that if I couldn't-- I wouldn't sleep well at night. He stopped seeing the counselor after only 6 months from beginning counseling and successfully continued his college education. Make it impossible to lie? A forum to discuss Navy Recruiters, processing at MEPS, Delayed Entry Program, Enlisted Ratings, "A" Schools, Officer Candidate School, Recruit Training Command, and transferring to your first command. It could just be too early that they do not want to be responsible if there is a tear due to your eyes are still healing. I had lasik about 6 months ago and the recruiter originally told me that all I would need is a letter filled out by the doctor. 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